discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ Lost & Bound [0.4 Public] [Twisted Moon Games]

[Nastastic]

But I can never work on previous stuff anymore, or I am gone longer than 8 months.

Sounds like he might actually have served time in jail or something.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Sounds like he might actually have served time in jail or something.

Not sure what for unless real C P was found or something. All the police can do is steal your (hopefully disposable and remotely backed up and encrypted) laptop/PC and harass you otherwise. Had this happened in the US he could sue the gov't and win a chunk of that "anti-gov't-weaponization" fund if no laws were actually broken.

 

[BadJM]

I thought that fictional stuff was legal in Germany. But if he had real stuff on his pc he would probably be in prison right now, so who knows. Sucks that he can't work on his games anymore. Or at least he can't create games with loli characters.

 

[lillo]

Another recognizable dev posted on his Discord with the following message:


Moon is based in Germany (I thought he was Russian) and we know that Killer7 had their computers and drives seized, and the German government won't return them but have not arrested him for a crime either. They went after K7 for a nude thumbnail for a base character in Daz (the ones that have no genitalia by default) but have not arrested K7, but it seems like Moon may not have been as lucky. Non-realistic images and videos are supposed to be legal in Germany, but that does not seem to stop the police and prosecutors from harassing Daz creators.

Wtf, I didn't know things were so bad for the dude...that makes things even sadder

 

[Nicest_Incest]

I thought that fictional stuff was legal in Germany. But if he had real stuff on his pc he would probably be in prison right now, so who knows. Sucks that he can't work on his games anymore. Or at least he can't create games with loli characters.

Not sure about Germany but not every country goes that hard over just C P possession (production is another thing). The US is probably the worst on the planet for that as many are just fines and maybe probation and community service, essentially the US equivalent of a misdemeanor. Hell even in China if caught you just get summoned to the local police station and usually they will just tell you to stop downloading or watching porn (they don't distinguish which fetish or type of porn as it's all illegal) and send you on your way with a warning, though they have 0 tolerance for repeat offenders.

Edit: Just checked, in Germany it's also just a misdemeanor = 3 months jail or at worst 5 years maximum (probably reserved for repeat offenders or the absolute worst who had half the Darknet on their PC's, or were selling it so gets a "commercial purposes" consideration, plus ages are also probably a big consideration with actors being 5 or 15 making a big difference). And all that is referring to the real thing, cartoons are 100% legal, at least in theory, as there's no specific law against it.

 

[Republican Bear]

Man......god dammit developers of certain games are drying up like a hot desert.

At this rate there will no good member+ games left to play.

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Yup, aside from tech upgrades sounds like they haven't actually changed much from when Hitler was in power. Actually kinda worse, because now you don't even need to be a Jew.

Quiet it never happened and anyone that mentions that period is a liar and silenced.

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[lillo]

Man......god dammit developers of certain games are drying up like a hot desert.

At this rate there will no good member+ games left to play.

Tbh apart from some exceptions, currently the vast majoriy of M+ games is now japanese-style or AI CG games...

 

[hawaii]

It was clear to me from the beginning that the developer would abandon the game! They've lost all backbone.

I didn't know that. I apologize.

 

[ramvivat]

Only those authors who know how to hide things among the facts, between the lines, will remain afloat. something that can lie in plain sight and form into a real picture only for an inquisitive mind.
and what has the logic of pry bar will die out.

and yes R.I.P Sweet Prince. amen!

 

[ramvivat]

It was clear to me from the beginning that the developer would abandon the game! They've lost all backbone.

Yes, it’s perfectly natural that among developers there are many "milkers"—and quite a few who don’t even know what they’re writing about; projects from such authors are doomed to fail from the start. But there are also those who truly know their craft, yet simply had bad luck—take WESTY, for example, who was singled out to be a scapegoat. I don’t believe a single word of the accusations leveled against him. It’s just that the "defenders of the rights of underage pixels" needed a high-profile figure—someone whose dramatic downfall would serve to frighten as many people as possible.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Yes, it’s perfectly natural that among developers there are many "milkers"—and quite a few who don’t even know what they’re writing about; projects from such authors are doomed to fail from the start. But there are also those who truly know their craft, yet simply had bad luck—take WESTY, for example, who was singled out to be a scapegoat. I don’t believe a single word of the accusations leveled against him. It’s just that the "defenders of the rights of underage pixels" needed a high-profile figure—someone whose dramatic downfall would serve to frighten as many people as possible.

Well, I didn't know Westy personally and certainly never met him IRL but supposedly it was his other hobbies that got him busted/outed, the media just focused on his fictional AVN rather than his RL teen "LI" and those (mis)adventures as unbelievable as that is. My guess is those stalking incidents are what actually got LE taking a closer look at him after they called the cops. Moral of the story is keep doing things you're not supposed to and sooner or later you will get caught, happens rather often with incest couples that also have an exhibitionism fetish (that mom/son couple in TX getting caught in the local church of all places the main one I remember, what a horror that had to have been to make national news. That happened like 25 years ago and he's probably STILL the butt of a bunch of motherfucker jokes, though at least memes didn't exist yet back then but their sex tapes are still floating around).